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Tuesday, November 25th, 2003
This week was slow until someone posted wondering where everyone was. Someone mentioned the automatic news gathering systems like Google News, and mentioned that Microsoft was working on one: “When I first checked the french version, http://fr.newsbot.msn.com, its lead story was a link to a two-paragraph story on a french business site about “Playboy et les femmes de WalMart deshabille” — illustrated with a head shot of Donald Rumsfeld. For all the early glitches that people reported on Google News, I never saw anything any way near that bad.
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
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Tags: Google News, listserv, mailing list, Microsoft, news aggregation, Online News
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Tuesday, November 18th, 2003
I hate html in emails, and I guess Outlook 2003 now blocks it by default (because otherwise it would spread viruses, which all previous versions of Outlook have been experts at). Someone brought up this issue from a designer’s point of view. A lot of the newsletters that people actually signed up for were being bounced back. Some people agreed with me that even if readers can turn the blocking off, would they want to? Journalists can track traffic with html newsletters, but users don’t care about that.
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
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Tags: Design, email, HTML, listserv, mailing list, Online News, Outlook
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Tuesday, November 11th, 2003
This week people talked about a couple of options for accepting and serving ads for a low-volume site. It was interesting to see a few open source projects on this. I’ll definitely take a look at these later, because I’ve worked on sites in the past that tried running banner ads and the solutions we came up with were always less than optimal.
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
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Tags: advertising, listserv, mailing list, Online News
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Tuesday, November 4th, 2003
A poster from Brazil mentioned that his paper was shifting from html to all-pdf web editions. A lot of people brought up possible problems with this. Bandwidth was mentioned, as was the fact that on an html web page, every story can contain links to classifieds and other revenue-generation ads. Then again some companies are interested because it’s shovelware–instead of having a staff for the online edition, you can simply dump the pdfs made form the print edition online.
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
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Tags: advertising, listserv, mailing list, Online News, PDF, shovelware
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Tuesday, October 28th, 2003
A poster mentioned that they want to concentrate on cross-cultural user interface design in school, but hadn’t seen much about it. No one seemed to think that there was enough research/work done on the issue, and I don’t think I’ve really seen anything about it. There are some obvious things like language but the real problem is how different cultures assign different meaning to signs and symbols.
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
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Tags: cross-cultural design, listserv, mailing list, Online News, user interface design
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Tuesday, October 21st, 2003
There was a really interesting thread this week about pop-up blockers. Basically the idea is that journalists should not go around praising and recommending pop-up blockers when so many news sites rely on them for advertising revenue. I hadn’t really thought of it that way before, but I’m not sure how big a problem this is. People who want to block pop-ups are likely to be those who don’t click on them anyway. So I doubt this will change click-through rates. Some people questioned whether pop ups work at all, since X10 (they sold those mini-cameras) went out of business recently.
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
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Tuesday, October 14th, 2003
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
More on blogs this week. Online journalism seems to be obsessed with blogs anymore, which is annoying, because some really good IA discussions go on here otherwise. Someone posted a study that provoked a ton of response: “Perseus estimates there are 4.12 million blogs on eight hosting services. But the research company estimated that 66% - 2.72 million - haven’t been updated in two months and that 1.09 million haven’t been updated since the first day. The average duration for an abandoned blog was 126 days, according to the survey of 3,634 blogs.”
http://www.mediapost.com/dtls_dsp_news.cfm?newsId=221430
None of this is too surprising, and some argued whether or not any bloggers are important at all.
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Tags: blogging, blogs, listserv, mailing list, Online News, online-journalism
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Tuesday, October 7th, 2003
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
One of the topics that comes up a lot here is blogging versus journalism. Someone brought up an interesting project where a reporter was doing live coverage of a trial with in a blog-like way. A big part of this is how so many relatively inexpensive portable computers, PDAs, etc. are around. A number of posters noted that it seems like the bloggers are not the ones starting the debate, and that they seem to be a pretty inclusive group. Others pointed out that blogging is a buzzword and not yet proven; news on the internet is only about 10 years old so its hardly a mature medium.
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Tuesday, September 30th, 2003
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
One of the topics this week was minipayments. Some have seen these and micropayments as the web’s future in terms of revenue–many small charges added up without requiring users to jump through hoops. Minipayments fall more into the $5 range. The Online Publishers’ Association did a study saying these are bringing in less than $15 million/year, but it was pointed out that this low figure may be because they aren’t offered by many sites.
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Monday, September 22nd, 2003
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
A huge thread which began last week on the 15th but I didn’t read until now is about what kind of standards sites are using in their code. The original poster is trying to use XHTML and CSS, but noticed that no other news sites he looked at validated as XHTML. His question was why. A few ideas came up-if you use CSS for page layout, anyone using an older browser will lose all of your layout and most likely just see a bunch of text. Someone else pointed out that this could actually be a good thing-users with disabilities, for example, who surf the web with text-reading software, won’t see your layout anyway and a bunch of text is more useful for them. Ditto for Palm users and people surfing on tiny displays.
I think the real reason people aren’t using valid XHTML and CSS is that it’s a lot of work to set up and get working exactly right. Most places are not putting money into things like that, they’re laying people off and hiring people who will do data-entry type tasks on the cheap as opposed to building a system. Plus a lot of places spent tons of money on their current systems just 3 or 4 years ago.
Another issue brought up was standards for delivering streaming video. One poster recommended using Flash, which is something I read somewhere else before, and it does sound like a great idea. Flash can serve mp4 video, doesn’t pop up with ads or offers for a pro version like RealPlayer and QuickTime, and is already installed in most browsers. A lot of posters in the group are not big Flash fans, because it’s a semi-closed proprietary standard, but there doesn’t seem to be a better alternative to streaming video over the web. One poster offered a few places where Flash was just about the only tool that could do what the site designers wanted it to do, but one in particular (http://www.msnbc.com/modules/yip02/) made some posters scoff.
Also, no matter what standard you decide on using, there’s some browser that doesn’t work the same way the others work. And standards constantly change. The question came down to how much should content be separated from presentation (so that different presentations are available for different devices), and how much should presentation be standardized (so that the same presentation will work to some degree on different devices)? There was an interesting article here: http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000266.php.
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Tags: accessibility, CSS, Flash, listserv, mailing list, mobile web, mp4, Online News, streaming video, Web Design, web standards, XHTML
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Monday, September 15th, 2003
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
An interesting thread about Wikis started this week. Wikis are web sites that allow users to write, update and maintain the content, usually stored in some sort of database. The idea of letting just about anyone update content on your site might seem crazy, but the idea is that since anyone can update it, and backups are kept, there are likely to be many more people willing to fix a bad page than make the page bad in the first place. Perhaps the best-known one is http://www.wikipedia.org/. This site is probably a librarian’s nightmare, since everything, from the indexing terms to the source citation (if any), is left up to whoever wanders by. It seems to work fairly well, though. I wouldn’t put anyones life on the line, but if I wanted some background on a subject Wikipedia is as good a place to start as any.
The thread started when someone posted the problems they were having in choosing and starting one. Wikis are pretty easy to program, which means just about everyone has written their own, and many of them concentrate on anything but good architecture. Other posters noted that they found Wikis to be useful internally, but no one here seemed to be using them with the public in a big way.
Apparently posting and reading here can pay off. Someone mentioned an article about Rosalind Resnick at http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/jun2003/sb20030625_5361.htm. She started an opt-in email marketing company that she later sold for $111 million in cash. Years ago she used to post to this group. I really miss the Internet boom. I think I may have missed my chance to put together a couple of ideas and a web site, and then cash in.
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Tags: internal wikis, listserv, mailing list, marketing, Online News, Wikipedia, wikis
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Monday, September 8th, 2003
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
I went ahead and looked up some info on RSS. It seems pretty interesting-details can be found at http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss. RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication, a common format for content you want others to be able to pick up through their news sites, blogs, and web applications. It’s a flavor of XML, which allows you to set up different channels and different items within the channel, with some other standard tags like creator and description. It’s nice because it’s an open format, and it seems to be getting pretty big. Like so many other things, there’s a set of dueling specifications for it, though some are backwards compatible with each other which is nice. If more sites keep using it, I’m sure Microsoft will ad their own proprietary version to Office any day now.
One thing that’s interesting about this list is that people use it to announce papers, books, and projects. For example, there’s “The current status and potential development of online news consumption: A structural approach” by An Nguyen at http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue8_9/nguyen/index.html, which makes the bland assertion that more news web sites are going up and more people are getting their news from the web. That one was mentioned by someone who had read it; other times the writers themselves make announcements like Robert Berkman, who co-wrote Digital Dilemmas: Ethical Issues for Online Media Professionals. This book likes kind of interesting, just because I’ve read a few journalism ethics books and they usually don’t have much on online journalism. There are some important issues which are particularly pressing online as opposed to print–like reader privacy.
In other threads, some people have been discussing a poster called “JOE BIALEK” who seems to have appeared out of nowhere to write huge diatribes. The name looked familiar to me and some of the other posters confirmed my suspicion-he’s a troll from Usenet and other forums who tries to start fights. There was an interesting meta-thread about how these sorts of things happen. Another thread was about the use of mobile phone cameras by reporters. The first poster talked about how great it could be, but others quickly added there could be ethical concerns. It might not be a great idea to let your reporter (who’s not a trained news photographer) take insensitive pictures of victims and post them without going through an editor first.
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Tags: camera phones, ethics, listserv, mailing list, Microsoft, Online News, online-journalism, Photography, RSS, XML
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Monday, September 1st, 2003
As part of a class project I’ve been reading the Online-News mailing list and responding to some of the issues and discussion brought up there.
This week did not see a great deal of discussion per se. One poster asked for useful/innovative tools that CMS (content management systems) have. The only response so far said that flexibility was the best feature his CMS had, so that his programmers could add/alter modules without paying a bunch of money for consultants. In his site, they added RSS feeds and added a simple interface for editors to use.
Last week there was a long thread that started when someone asked which blogging software they should use for a student project on a Windows platform. One suggestion was Moveable Type, and there was some back-and forth about how easy it is to make changes to built-in templates with CSS. Typepad and Pmachine were two alternatives that were also mentioned. There was some talk about integrating it into a CMS and even using Flash (which one writer pointed out, might be silly if most of the content is just text). Several people talked about the difficulties they had setting up MT for multiple authors, and gave some suggestions to make it easier on the original poster if they decide to go that route. RSS was also mentioned, which is something I know little about and should probably look into.
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Tags: blogging, CMS, listserv, mailing list, Moveable Type, Online News, RSS, Windows
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